Comments on: p2 and penance http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/ work. life. open source. diatribes. Mon, 14 May 2012 23:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Anonymous http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-709 Anonymous Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:15:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-709 I'm with eugene on this. All the previous problems with eclipse update in practice were solved with extension locations. Unfortunately, the eclipse UI went out of its way to make using them impossible to discover. However, with the new p2, I can't seem to make anything like extension locations work at all. <br/><br/>For example, I just installed eclipse3.4M6 and then unzipped dtp1.6M6, gef3.4.0M6, wtp3.0M5, emf2.4.0M6, and tptp4.5.0M5 into separate directories. I tried using .link files in the dropins directory, but then elcipse startup takes a several minutes (as opposed to seconds) and it still will not load the plugins. I’m with eugene on this. All the previous problems with eclipse update in practice were solved with extension locations. Unfortunately, the eclipse UI went out of its way to make using them impossible to discover. However, with the new p2, I can’t seem to make anything like extension locations work at all.

For example, I just installed eclipse3.4M6 and then unzipped dtp1.6M6, gef3.4.0M6, wtp3.0M5, emf2.4.0M6, and tptp4.5.0M5 into separate directories. I tried using .link files in the dropins directory, but then elcipse startup takes a several minutes (as opposed to seconds) and it still will not load the plugins.

]]> By: Anonymous http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-2773 Anonymous Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:15:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-2773 I'm with eugene on this. All the previous problems with eclipse update in practice were solved with extension locations. Unfortunately, the eclipse UI went out of its way to make using them impossible to discover. However, with the new p2, I can't seem to make anything like extension locations work at all. For example, I just installed eclipse3.4M6 and then unzipped dtp1.6M6, gef3.4.0M6, wtp3.0M5, emf2.4.0M6, and tptp4.5.0M5 into separate directories. I tried using .link files in the dropins directory, but then elcipse startup takes a several minutes (as opposed to seconds) and it still will not load the plugins. I’m with eugene on this. All the previous problems with eclipse update in practice were solved with extension locations. Unfortunately, the eclipse UI went out of its way to make using them impossible to discover. However, with the new p2, I can’t seem to make anything like extension locations work at all. For example, I just installed eclipse3.4M6 and then unzipped dtp1.6M6, gef3.4.0M6, wtp3.0M5, emf2.4.0M6, and tptp4.5.0M5 into separate directories. I tried using .link files in the dropins directory, but then elcipse startup takes a several minutes (as opposed to seconds) and it still will not load the plugins.

]]> By: Anonymous http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-687 Anonymous Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:27:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-687 Oh, I tell a fib - I can see one in the nightly drop (http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/N20080322-2000/index.php)<br/><br/>--whingeoff--... Oh, I tell a fib – I can see one in the nightly drop (http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/N20080322-2000/index.php)

–whingeoff–…

]]> By: Anonymous http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-2772 Anonymous Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:27:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-2772 Oh, I tell a fib - I can see one in the nightly drop (http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/N20080322-2000/index.php)--whingeoff--... Oh, I tell a fib – I can see one in the nightly drop (http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/N20080322-2000/index.php)–whingeoff–…

]]> By: Anonymous http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-686 Anonymous Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:23:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-686 Well, I got all excited, and tried to use p2 to get the latest stream build - but, of course, I'm on OSX, which is the 3rd class citizen and gets no build???<br/><br/>http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/S-3.4M5-200802071530/index.php<br/><br/>- no agent for OSX :( Well, I got all excited, and tried to use p2 to get the latest stream build – but, of course, I’m on OSX, which is the 3rd class citizen and gets no build???

http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/S-3.4M5-200802071530/index.php

- no agent for OSX :(

]]> By: Anonymous http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-2771 Anonymous Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:23:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-2771 Well, I got all excited, and tried to use p2 to get the latest stream build - but, of course, I'm on OSX, which is the 3rd class citizen and gets no build???http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/S-3.4M5-200802071530/index.php- no agent for OSX :( Well, I got all excited, and tried to use p2 to get the latest stream build – but, of course, I’m on OSX, which is the 3rd class citizen and gets no build???http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/equinox/drops/S-3.4M5-200802071530/index.php- no agent for OSX :(

]]> By: Chris Aniszczyk (zx) http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-674 Chris Aniszczyk (zx) Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:27:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-674 I think by default, p2 will delete old files... but it has the ability to plug in different types of "garbage collectors" if you need to be more flexible...<br/><br/>cool stuff eh? I think by default, p2 will delete old files… but it has the ability to plug in different types of “garbage collectors” if you need to be more flexible…

cool stuff eh?

]]> By: Eugene Kuleshov http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-675 Eugene Kuleshov Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:27:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-675 My biggest struggle with p2 is how to configure my extension locations with p2. I use over 30 extension locations that I am reusing across multiple Eclipse instances (from 3.2 to 3.4) and I really don't want to have the same plugins copied in many places. It would be great if someone could write up some kind of migration strategy or side by side comparison document how old update manager and extension locations features are handled in p2. My biggest struggle with p2 is how to configure my extension locations with p2. I use over 30 extension locations that I am reusing across multiple Eclipse instances (from 3.2 to 3.4) and I really don’t want to have the same plugins copied in many places. It would be great if someone could write up some kind of migration strategy or side by side comparison document how old update manager and extension locations features are handled in p2.

]]> By: Chris Aniszczyk (zx) http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-2769 Chris Aniszczyk (zx) Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:27:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-2769 I think by default, p2 will delete old files... but it has the ability to plug in different types of "garbage collectors" if you need to be more flexible...cool stuff eh? I think by default, p2 will delete old files… but it has the ability to plug in different types of “garbage collectors” if you need to be more flexible…cool stuff eh?

]]> By: Eugene Kuleshov http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/comment-page-1/#comment-2770 Eugene Kuleshov Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:27:00 +0000 http://aniszczyk.org/2008/03/27/p2-and-penance/#comment-2770 My biggest struggle with p2 is how to configure my extension locations with p2. I use over 30 extension locations that I am reusing across multiple Eclipse instances (from 3.2 to 3.4) and I really don't want to have the same plugins copied in many places. It would be great if someone could write up some kind of migration strategy or side by side comparison document how old update manager and extension locations features are handled in p2. My biggest struggle with p2 is how to configure my extension locations with p2. I use over 30 extension locations that I am reusing across multiple Eclipse instances (from 3.2 to 3.4) and I really don’t want to have the same plugins copied in many places. It would be great if someone could write up some kind of migration strategy or side by side comparison document how old update manager and extension locations features are handled in p2.

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