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		<title>Comment on Eclipse is Trending! by Michel Parisien</title>
		<link>http://aniszczyk.org/2010/03/11/eclipse-is-trending/comment-page-1/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel Parisien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe during EclipseCon, all those people will be like &quot;wtf is this Eclipse Platform?&quot; Give them a taste of their own medicine. :) Unfortunately, following the Eclipse tag is useless for us because of this teenage girl vampire thing. We need to create a tag that differentiates us. Might I propose starting a new campaign, that we all start using #eclipseide or #eclipseorg? (Yes, I know #eclipseplatform would be more accurate, but I don&#039;t want the tag to be so long as to be impractical).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe during EclipseCon, all those people will be like &#8220;wtf is this Eclipse Platform?&#8221; Give them a taste of their own medicine. <img src='http://aniszczyk.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Unfortunately, following the Eclipse tag is useless for us because of this teenage girl vampire thing. We need to create a tag that differentiates us. Might I propose starting a new campaign, that we all start using #eclipseide or #eclipseorg? (Yes, I know #eclipseplatform would be more accurate, but I don&#39;t want the tag to be so long as to be impractical).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eclipse and Academia by Marcel</title>
		<link>http://aniszczyk.org/2010/03/11/eclipse-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-1657</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would help academic projects best?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally I think that not many academic projects are supported/developed for longer than, say, 6 months. Typically an idea is developed, the tool gets implemented, the paper is written and refined until it gets accepted on a conference - and that&#039;s it. As of that time, the software decays. Why? Because success in research is not measured in terms of users but in terms of papers published. And to get papers accepted the software must not work perfectly – it just has to work “a little”.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is typically missing is the continuous “polishing” to make a tool usable by others. Often, research tools can only be built on the researcher’s machine and not on any other because of hardcoded paths, dependencies etc…&lt;br&gt;However, there are other projects that aim to create some value (like Mylyn did), which are also very, very interesting (code bubbles clearly belongs to this group). What can Eclipse do to support those projects? Here are my thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By providing an infrastructure? No.&lt;br&gt;By helping to create a business? Maybe.&lt;br&gt;By making such tools known by community? Clearly: Yes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Three ideas on that:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. “Beta-Users”&lt;br&gt;One thing research projects need a lot of is feedback: Is the tool working well? Is it helpful? How do people feel about the tool? What should be improved? What is missing? What bugs exist in the software?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But getting feedback is rather difficult. Making a software open source and put the URL of the issue tracker on the webpage rarely results in a large number of bug reports or, let alone user feedback.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What research projects need are beta-users; people that test your software and provide you with feedback about its usability. Here Eclipse could help in pushing the community to play around with these tools and start discussions on their research topic - maybe such discussions also create one or two project committers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Data&lt;br&gt;What else can researchers benefit from? Data. Data, Data, Data ... and Data :-)  Much research needs to collect data about, for instance, how developers traversed source code, used the Eclipse UI, about common programming exceptions when using APIs etc. etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The data collector framework is a very interesting tool because it already collects some valuable data. But there is much more that can (need to) be collected in order to solve problems with source code understanding or UI usage as mentioned above.&lt;br&gt;The following idea is inspired by the SVN team plug-in. After installing the SNV team plug-ins you get a pop-up window that asks you which SVN implementation you want to use (JavaHL, SVNKit etc.). Let’s think about the data collection tool in the same way. Imagine that a developer get’s a pop-up window asking her which open source research project she wants to support today, i.e., share her data with? This way, Eclipse would extremely well support researchers. In this case, academia would contribute special data collectors for the data collector and Eclipse would host the data making it available to researchers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Challenges&lt;br&gt;Challenges are a great way to see which tools works best for a given problem. Maybe you are aware of tools like XSnippet, Prospector and ParseWeb (few more exist). They all solve the same problem - but they never have been evaluated by a large user community, and thus you will never know how helpful they are in reality. Challenges or community votes could draw the researchers attention to create better tools and at the end the winner gets a nice logo on his webpage “Winner of the Eclipse XY Challenge” (note, that such a thing wouldn’t need a price money – it’s just the honor :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, such user votes are just one idea. Microsoft, for instance, gives away parts of its data for mining bugs. Maybe you know that there are many tools that analyze (and mine) Eclipse code to find bugs. And because of its size, Eclipse is a gladly taken case study for each of them. Creating challenges for Bug Detection tools are also an interesting option where both Eclipse and academia can benefit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are my first three ideas that came into my mind after reading you post – and as you might suspect, having such an Eclipse support is greatly appreciated :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would help academic projects best?</p>
<p>Personally I think that not many academic projects are supported/developed for longer than, say, 6 months. Typically an idea is developed, the tool gets implemented, the paper is written and refined until it gets accepted on a conference &#8211; and that&#39;s it. As of that time, the software decays. Why? Because success in research is not measured in terms of users but in terms of papers published. And to get papers accepted the software must not work perfectly – it just has to work “a little”.</p>
<p>What is typically missing is the continuous “polishing” to make a tool usable by others. Often, research tools can only be built on the researcher’s machine and not on any other because of hardcoded paths, dependencies etc…<br />However, there are other projects that aim to create some value (like Mylyn did), which are also very, very interesting (code bubbles clearly belongs to this group). What can Eclipse do to support those projects? Here are my thoughts:</p>
<p>By providing an infrastructure? No.<br />By helping to create a business? Maybe.<br />By making such tools known by community? Clearly: Yes.</p>
<p>Three ideas on that:</p>
<p>1. “Beta-Users”<br />One thing research projects need a lot of is feedback: Is the tool working well? Is it helpful? How do people feel about the tool? What should be improved? What is missing? What bugs exist in the software?</p>
<p>But getting feedback is rather difficult. Making a software open source and put the URL of the issue tracker on the webpage rarely results in a large number of bug reports or, let alone user feedback.</p>
<p>What research projects need are beta-users; people that test your software and provide you with feedback about its usability. Here Eclipse could help in pushing the community to play around with these tools and start discussions on their research topic &#8211; maybe such discussions also create one or two project committers.</p>
<p>2. Data<br />What else can researchers benefit from? Data. Data, Data, Data &#8230; and Data <img src='http://aniszczyk.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Much research needs to collect data about, for instance, how developers traversed source code, used the Eclipse UI, about common programming exceptions when using APIs etc. etc.</p>
<p>The data collector framework is a very interesting tool because it already collects some valuable data. But there is much more that can (need to) be collected in order to solve problems with source code understanding or UI usage as mentioned above.<br />The following idea is inspired by the SVN team plug-in. After installing the SNV team plug-ins you get a pop-up window that asks you which SVN implementation you want to use (JavaHL, SVNKit etc.). Let’s think about the data collection tool in the same way. Imagine that a developer get’s a pop-up window asking her which open source research project she wants to support today, i.e., share her data with? This way, Eclipse would extremely well support researchers. In this case, academia would contribute special data collectors for the data collector and Eclipse would host the data making it available to researchers.</p>
<p>3. Challenges<br />Challenges are a great way to see which tools works best for a given problem. Maybe you are aware of tools like XSnippet, Prospector and ParseWeb (few more exist). They all solve the same problem &#8211; but they never have been evaluated by a large user community, and thus you will never know how helpful they are in reality. Challenges or community votes could draw the researchers attention to create better tools and at the end the winner gets a nice logo on his webpage “Winner of the Eclipse XY Challenge” (note, that such a thing wouldn’t need a price money – it’s just the honor <img src='http://aniszczyk.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, such user votes are just one idea. Microsoft, for instance, gives away parts of its data for mining bugs. Maybe you know that there are many tools that analyze (and mine) Eclipse code to find bugs. And because of its size, Eclipse is a gladly taken case study for each of them. Creating challenges for Bug Detection tools are also an interesting option where both Eclipse and academia can benefit.</p>
<p>These are my first three ideas that came into my mind after reading you post – and as you might suspect, having such an Eclipse support is greatly appreciated <img src='http://aniszczyk.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Eclipse and Academia by Andrew Overholt</title>
		<link>http://aniszczyk.org/2010/03/11/eclipse-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Overholt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One area that is really important IMO is getting project ideas that are in academically-digestible chunks.  I&#039;m thinking projects that committers envision will take 4 or 8 months and would be do-able by students.  They&#039;d have to be of potential interest to students and probably also have some sort of academic value (for some definition of &quot;academic value&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One area that is really important IMO is getting project ideas that are in academically-digestible chunks.  I&#39;m thinking projects that committers envision will take 4 or 8 months and would be do-able by students.  They&#39;d have to be of potential interest to students and probably also have some sort of academic value (for some definition of &#8220;academic value&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eclipse and Academia by ugosan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ugosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think it could serve as a hub for exchanging experiences as well, great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think it could serve as a hub for exchanging experiences as well, great idea.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eclipse and Academia by Chris Aniszczyk</title>
		<link>http://aniszczyk.org/2010/03/11/eclipse-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-1654</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Aniszczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the goal of the Poster sessions at EclipseCon is there for researchers to explain their idea. I&#039;m just wondering if we could do more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From the publication perspective, I think it would be useful for &lt;a href=&quot;http://Eclipse.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eclipse.org&lt;/a&gt; to maintain a list of publications that its technology is mentioned and used in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the goal of the Poster sessions at EclipseCon is there for researchers to explain their idea. I&#39;m just wondering if we could do more.</p>
<p>From the publication perspective, I think it would be useful for <a href="http://Eclipse.org" rel="nofollow">Eclipse.org</a> to maintain a list of publications that its technology is mentioned and used in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eclipse and Academia by ugosan</title>
		<link>http://aniszczyk.org/2010/03/11/eclipse-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator>ugosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most research papers that had used Eclipse as a support do not explore the technology on the text, for obvious reasons: the focus is often not the tool used. I think there is much to be shared regarding the experiences researchers had.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;EclipseCon could have a track in which researchers would describe their works (2-4 pages), with focus on what Eclipse tools they re-used and what they had created. Editors built with GEF and GMF, DSL editors, RCP applications, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most research papers that had used Eclipse as a support do not explore the technology on the text, for obvious reasons: the focus is often not the tool used. I think there is much to be shared regarding the experiences researchers had.</p>
<p>EclipseCon could have a track in which researchers would describe their works (2-4 pages), with focus on what Eclipse tools they re-used and what they had created. Editors built with GEF and GMF, DSL editors, RCP applications, and so on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mylyn and the Little Things by Chris Aniszczyk</title>
		<link>http://aniszczyk.org/2010/03/02/mylyn-and-the-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-1646</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Aniszczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also do it on entries in the error log if you didn&#039;t know that already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also do it on entries in the error log if you didn&#39;t know that already.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mylyn and the Little Things by Egon Willighagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egon Willighagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that&#039;s a great feature indeed! Had never seen it, but used it already! Thanx for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#39;s a great feature indeed! Had never seen it, but used it already! Thanx for the post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Free Chapter from the OSGi and Equinox Book by vogella</title>
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		<dc:creator>vogella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the process of reading the book and it is really good. Thanks to the authors and all reviewers for supporting this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My wishlist for the next edition: 1:) remote services and 2.) blueprint services</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m in the process of reading the book and it is really good. Thanks to the authors and all reviewers for supporting this. </p>
<p>My wishlist for the next edition: 1:) remote services and 2.) blueprint services</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Source Business Resource (OSBR) by Chris Aniszczyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Aniszczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who actually has commit access to Android? Which percentage of that is Google...

My guess it&#039;s still 100% Google unless that&#039;s changed recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who actually has commit access to Android? Which percentage of that is Google&#8230;</p>
<p>My guess it&#8217;s still 100% Google unless that&#8217;s changed recently.</p>
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